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The Fighting Do Nothing and 6 Year Anniversary Episode

The Fighting Do Nothing and 6 Year Anniversary Episode

April 18, 2026 · 51:25 · Episode 318

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This week, former Forrester Research Director, Jeff Clark, is back in the studio for a discussion with our host Ian Truscott, to discuss how marketing can help sales defeat the biggest competitor in many B2B deals - do nothing. 

They discuss: 

  • Quantify the cost of inaction

  • Understand persona needs

  • Lower risk of change

  • Bring proof

  • Build internal consensus

Ian then joins Robert Rose in the virtual bar, The Rose & Rockstar, to celebrate 6 years of the podcast.

Over a fabulous cocktail, they revisit the first chat they had in the bar, about expressing your point of view in “unprecedented” times and how this relates to his work today, and their discussion two weeks ago about showing your “pointy bits”.

Enjoy!

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